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and i have to work on my marriage. it's right after my sobriety every day. >> great to meet you. >> thank you, buddy. >> been a real pleasure. that's all from a fascinating interview with tom arnold. now "anderson cooper 360." >> piers, thank you. sanjay gupta in tonight for anderson cooper. we begin with washington's trillion dollar showdown over the debt. two weeks to go until the treasury says it will be out of money to pay the bills there were two major developments. one has been called a possible break through. the other is being attacked by some as a stunt. >> on this vote the yeas are 234 and the nays are 190. the bill has passed. without objection and motion reconsiders laying on the table. >> that's the house tonight passing h.r. 2560, better known as cut, cap and balance. now it's a republican and tea party sponsored measure calling for massive spending cuts, a spending cap, and congress passing a balanced budget amendment. only then would the debt limit be allowed to go up, ending the current crisis.
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the measure was passed with just five democratic votes. senate democrats say they'll defeat it. if somehow they fail, president obama says he'll veto it. in other words, it's doa which is why a lot of democrats are calling it a stunt and a waste of time. earlier today a bipartisan group of senators called the gang of six came out with a proposal of their own that is being taken seriously, including at the white house. >> and so for us today, democratic fors acknowledge that we've got to deal with our long-term debt problems that arise out of our various entitlement programs. and for republican senators to acknowledge that, revenues will have to be part of a balanced package that makes sure that nobody is disproportionately hurt from us making progress on the debt and deficits, i think is a very significant step. >> the plan in brief cuts the national debt by about $3.7 trillion over the next 10 years. it does it with a mix of
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spending cuts and tax changes. now, there are several catches, though. uncertainty whether house tea party republicans will get behind it, and doubts from senate leaders that they can get it all done within the next two weeks. whatever the outcome, though, new polling tonight suggests that americans are losing confidence in washington. in the latest abc news "washington post" survey, 8 in 10 americans are either dissatisfied or angry about the way the federal government is working. that's the highest percentage since the 1990s. additionally, 63% say they were inclined to look around next year for new representation in washington. joining us now, democratic strategist james carville and ari fleischer, former george w. bush press secretary. thanks both of you for joining us. ari, that poll today is pretty striking. eight in ten americans upset with washington right now, six in ten inclined to look elsewhere when it comes to election time. we're one day closer to a possible problem with the debt ceiling here.
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was this really the moment to spend an entire day on what everyone thinks is a symbolic gesture? >> i don't think it was symbolic at all, sanjay. the only institution of the washington the house the senate and white house that has actually done its job and done anything meaningful on spending or debt is the house of representatives. they passed a budget. the senate has not. they passed cuts today. the senate has not. and president obama in his budget never propose today do anything about the debt except to let it grow. so only one institution is doing it. the president isn't for it, so therefore he wants to belittle it and act as if what the house did isn't meaningful but it is. the other reason it's meaningful beyond legislatively is now because almost every republican in the house has now voted to increase the debt limit. that crosses an important threshold for house republicans. it's almost as if that old game of warm warm hot hot? you've got to go through a few of these intermediate steps before you get to the final last-minute step of getting the agreement done. i'm still hopeful an agreement will be done.
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but you do have to go through this dance before you get there. and this is a part of it. but make no mistake, that was a real bullet what they passed today. it's the only real cuts in town. >> and james, i'm going to have you weigh in on this in a second. but ari, my point is that it's not going to get passed, h.r. 2560. the american people watch this and say that's great but it's not going to probably get through the senate and certainly the president will veto it so it does nothing for me. according to these polls it doesn't seem like it provides political cover for the representatives because the people seem frustrated with what's happening in washington right now. >> what they did in the house is actually the closest representation to the election of 2010 where people were sent to washington to make a difference and change. so in that case it's consistent with the public. i think the frustration is that the public's divided as well just as the politicses are. the public wants to get things done, they want people to work together but they also want washington to change the way it's been spending money. and so until the end of the day, and this is the way washington
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has always worked, they get the work done at the last second. until that last second agreement is reached, you're going to have this national churning in the public. everybody's fed up with it. it's totally understandable. it's a messy, messy, bad-looking process but it's the way our system works. >> james, you know how the system works as well. do you think this vote was an important gesture to conservatives in does it provide some cover in terms of -- >> i think it provided conservatives -- i think it provided cover to the conservatives. actually when you look at the polls they're not balanced at all who people are mad at. they are overwhelmingly mad at the congressional republicans. 71% to 73% disapprove of them. something like the numbers were like 20 to 73. president was 43-48. that's not parity. the public has decided that they don't like their approach. now, they may be wanting to double down with their base, may be wanting to do this where they have this vote so they can do something else. that i don't know. but i suspect that this thing
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now that one side has a clear political advantage, that's generally the way these things wash out. and pretty soon we're going to get off of this and they'll go to some version of an extension or something that will give them some kind of political -- they're going to try to get political cover with their base to move forward. it's still got a little ways to go here. >> looking forward, james, there seems to be a lot of optimism. i think you'll agree in the senate about this gang of six proposal. the president came out praising it as you heard. called it a good development. between democratic leaders in the senate saying they don't think now there's enough time to pass this bill. is it possible that we've just gotten too late for this grand bargain? >> well, they can do anything they want. they can extend it 30 -- can extend the debt ceiling for 30 days pending the outcome. they're congress. there's 11 options -- 1,0001 options they have before you get to default. a lot of republicans being told it doesn't matter, it would
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actually be good for the country. kind of flummoxes me but that's what a lot of them think. we're going to need a lot of democratic votes to pass this in the house. whether they can get them i don't know. it's still not a done deal. but right now it's pretty easy to declare there's a political winner in this. it's the president. that's pretty clear at this point. maybe they'll be able to change it and turn it around but it's going to be pretty tough. >> here's why the president is not the political winner in. this if he was the political winner why is the generic republican candidate beating him by eight points in the recent gallup poll. why is his job approval dropping including gallup to the low mid 40s range? the president's number have been coming down this whole process as well. so has congress's. this is the ultimate pox on both houses. there is no winner in this whole mess. and as far as the whoelt notion of is default good or bad for the country, you have a very
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small number of republicans who think that we won't default and if we did it's not a big problem. they're wrong. you also have a big number of democrats and much larger number who say it doesn't matter if we spend the nation into bankruptcy. we won't go bankrupt. they're wrong. and that's even worse because there are more of them who believe that than the small number of republicans who are willing to countenance the fall. >> let me ask you something. >> let me be clear. these polls, can i just be clear about something? this is washington equivalent. polls are not equivalent. the public blames the congressional republicans much more than the president, all right? that's a fact that cannot be disputed. we should not get off with the facts are. it's not a pox on both the house. it's overwhelmingly the public blames the congressional republicans. >> james, as somebody who's made his living with polls you know as well as i do that there's not only one poll in town. there's a bunch of them. >> three of them. you can look at all three. [ overlapping speakers ] >> his numbers have been dropping.
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the president is not -- nobody's faring well in this, james. >> james let me ask you something very specific. there's a question about the president releasing more details about what specifically he'd cut. that seems to be a point of contention. do you think the president should do that? people accuse him of being vague. should he be more specific on this? >> well, what i think -- he's embraced the quote gang of six i guess now they're saying it's the gang of seven. and a lot of these cuts are going to have to go. i was listening to senator conrad today, was reading something. one agreement they said they had half a billion dollars or a trillion dollars in cuts and it turned out to be 30 billion or
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something like that. who knows? nobody has an agreement to do anything yet. i suspect that they're going to get one. it may be -- they may have to get a 30-day extension do something like that. by the way, senator demint says it's not just minor republicans. one of the most powerful republican senators said that. senator too maniy an up and coming star of the republican party says default would be fine, better for the country. all over talk radio you're hearing default would be good. "wall street journal" editorial pages is printing op ed pieces saying default would be good for the party. pretty substantial feeling among the republican party this would be a good thing. >> what do you think happens between now and august 2nd? >> never forget, the administration, the department of treasury, does have the ability to juggle some more trust funds and push back the august 2nd date. i think that's ultimately going to happen if we're anywhere close to august 2nd. i think you'll get some type of intermediate agreement made modest level of spending cuts only going to get us through the fall, maybe the winter, and then they're going to have to come back with this with different politics as the year goes along to figure out what to do down the road. i think it's too late for any kind of grand bargain. don't overinterpret what the gang of six did. it actually is not the language
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of a grand bargain. it's kicking the can down the road so a grand bargain gets negotiated again later. it's not to do all its work before august 2nd. short term then they're going to come back and we're going to be here again i hate to tell you in another six months or so. >> big day, though, on this particular topic. all right, other lee fleischer, james sar ville. thanks coach. you can follow me on twiting @ sanjay goop tachlt up next rupert murdoch in the hot seat. his phone hacking scandal is only part of the story. a three-ring sir cuss attackeded it as well as piers morgan and his stinging counter punch. later japan's nuclear disaster, another credibility gap getting even wider. just a week ago the government said beef from nearby areas was safe in small portions. now it's saying don't even take a bite. we'll have details shortly. first up check in with isha sesay. >> a stunning revelation in the casey anthony story.
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take one media mogul, one pie in the face, a right hook and a stiff upper lip. you've pretty much summed up the day in britain's parliament and rupert murdoch's phone hacking scandal. he and his son james and former news corp. executive rebekah brooks were grilled today. the elder murdoch apologizing but refusing to take the rap. >> do you feel that ultimately you are responsible for this whole fiasco? >> nope. >> you're not responsible? who is responsible? >> the people that i trusted to run it. and then maybe the people they trusted. >> no apology and no stepping down. >> have you considered resigning? >> >> no. >> why not? >> because i feel that people i trusted, not saying who, i don't know what level. have let me down. and i think they have behaved
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disgracefully and betrayed the company and me. and it's for them to pay. i think that frankly i'm the best person to clean this up. >> and speaking of cleaning up, the proceedings were interrupted briefly when a protestor deliver a shaving cream pie. take a look at this. keep your eye on the lower left-hand corner of your screen. it happens pretty quickly. >> oh! >> here it is quickly again in slow motion. here comes the pie. and that pink blur that you see over there is rupert murdoch's wife wendy who leaps across the table, taking a poke at the pieman. then a body arrives and takes the man away. his name reportedly is jonathan may bowles. in his twitter handle, johnny marbles. just before the attack he tweeted "i'm actually in this committee and can confirm, murdoch is mr. burns".
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mr. burns being c. montgomery burns from fox's "the simpsons". springfield's richest man. unlike mr. burns, though, there's nothing funny about the allegations against mr. murdoch's british newspaper empire. you heard him deny any responsibility for the phone hacking. he's spent a fair bit of time painting himself as simply out of tuchlt listen. >> i can't answer. i don't know. >> i don't know. i was not aware at the time, but i don't have any memory. i don't know anything about that. i'm not sure what i said. i cannot swear to the accuracy of it. i just don't remember. >> joining me now, cnn's internationals richard quest, senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin and "vanity fair" contributing editor vickie ward. welcome to all of you. you all had very busy days, i know. richard, let me start with you. how do you think the murdochs did today? and i'll preface by saying if the stock price is any indication, the reaction seemed to be favorable. should we be reading into that? >> the murdochs did what they had to do in the sense of appeasing investors but not a
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great deal more than that. they still have not answered to the fundamental question, why was the culture allowed to take place at that newspaper that aloud these events to happen, and why did they not know more about it? did the chain of command clearly fall -- i want to show you the morning newspapers. it's a quarter past 3:00 in the u.k. bear with me. this is how the daily telegraph is reporting it this morning. murdoch eats humble pie. the rival news of the world has foam whacked. but interestingly, sanjay, if i show you both of the murdoch newspapers, they go for the most humble day of my life and murdoch's defense. and they're that highly-highly embarrassing moment is not on the front page, although obviously both newspapers do feature it inside. the newspapers are clearly all over this with every pun you can
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possibly imagine about foam, custard pies, humble pies. >> richard, i mean, i watched that and everyone just saw it again. you can't help feel a little bit sorry for the giecht he's 80 years old and getting essentially whacked with this foam pie or whatever it was. does it make a big difference? was there a little bit of sympathy, you think, that people felt as a result? >> whatever sympathy there was, listen to those answers again that you played, sanjay. and you'll see that yes, that might have been his general demeanor. very long pauses before answers. but when those answers came, they were clear, they were definitive. no, i don't take ultimate responsibility. i didn't do this. i was misled and betrayed. and the feeling generally from what i've read in the comment and the analysis is that whatever he may have on the surface looked like, here was rupert murdoch doing what he had to do, doing it honestly and
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sincerely about the million dollar hacking of the dead girl's phone. but obviously with a wider agenda. >> so jeff, i mean, so he apologized. he said he was humbled. but he did not take responsibility. what do you make of that, jeff toobin? >> i think his problem is not really legal at this point. it's a business problem. he has to figure out a way to keep control for his family of the news corp. i mean, i don't think there is any direct criminal responsibility, either -- certainly not in the united states, and probably not in great britain, either. but he has to persuade the so-called independent directors of news corp. who are not very independent who are very much in normal circumstances dependent on him, he has to persuade them that he and his son are still fit to run the company, that they are not liabilities. and i think they barely did that.
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james murdoch did his sort of tony robbins, a lot of business cliche's about how he was being proactive and there was a code of conduct. but -- and rupert was grudgingly accepting of responsibility, although he apparently had no idea how his newspapers work. but i think he probably did enough to hold on. >> vickie, you used to work for rupert murdoch. >> yeah. both side of the atlantic. >> right. right. and as jeff said, he seems to have held his ground today in some ways scoring points as we saw with investors. but there are other investigations still going on. i think four or five of them. where do you see the scandal going from here? >> well, i think this is a watershed moment for the british press, and hopefully for the press around the world. i mean, it's very important that press play the part that actually rupert talked about at the end of the hearing today. what he initially intended to do
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when his father gave him the legacy that he gave him and he came to britain was create a culture of transparentsy, to make the democracy really free. and make the establishment answerably to the press that was honest and clean, not sleazy and criminal. as the allegations -- what clearly happened with the cases "the news of the world" have been involved with. i disagree with one thing jeff said. i think james murdoch came out fantastically well today. 24 hours ago people were saying rebekah brooks is gone. is james next. i think once the stock prices shot up, 6% today as we've seen, people are buying news corp. stock. i think james murdoch actually shown in those proceedings. he was extremely articulate. and he seemed to have a real grip for someone who only came into that seat in 2007 as he pointed out. >> yeah.
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38-year-old james murdoch we're talking about. jeff, before we all go, let me give you a text 360 question. we got this from steve in detroit. how do you think the allegations and testimony new england are going to affect news corp. and its subsidiaries in the united states? we talked about this from a legal standpoint. in general what you do you think the impact is going to? >> i don't think that much in the united states. i don't think fox news will be affected by that. the "wall street journal" lost the head but it's still a quality newspaper. a lot of people have talked about the possibility of criminal charges in the united states, the foreign corrupt practices act or something connected with hacking or 9/11 -- 9/11 victims. there really is no credible evidence at all of any sort of american criminal violations by anyone in connection with news corp. so i really think the question is really a business one over here as well as in england, is can the murdochs stay in control.
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and i think probably yes is the answer. >> and they seem to have every intention of doing so based on the answers some of those questions today. jeff toobin, vickie ward, richard quest, thanks so much for joining us want to add another level of the bizarre really to today's hearing. a member of parliament made some very strong accusations against piers more who used to be an editor at the murdoch-owned "daily mirror". he read a pass sang about phone hacking from piers's book and saying he used it to get a scoop. the pass sang is about piers suspecting his own phone was hacked. poorz says the allegations are completely nonsense. they were both in the situation room today. take a look at this. >> you caused quite a stir when you asked this question, when you made the statement about our colleague here at cnn, piers morgan. i'm going to play what you said in parliament today. listen to. this. >> piers morgan, who is now a
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celebrity anchor at cnn, you don't appear to have asked him any questions at all about phone hacking. former editor of "the daily mirror". he said in his book "that little trick of entering a standard four-digit code allowed anyone to call a number and hear all your messages". in that book he boasted that using that little trick enabled him to win scoop of the year about a story. so that is the former editor of "the daily mirror" being very open about his personal use of phone hacking. >> all right. what evidence do you have to make that kind of accusation against piers morgan? >> well, i said what i said in the committee room. but i'm afraid right now i'm going to say that i can't comment about it outside of the committee room. as mr. morgan will know, inside parliament when i speak at a select committee of parliament i am protected by absolute parliamently privilege to repeat something outside of parliament doesn't give me that cloak of privilege. mr. morgan is a very rich man. so i am sure that ferocious
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investigative journalists at cnn and across the news media in the united states will take careful note of what was said in the committee and look into it. that's the best i'm afraid i'm going to be able to do on legal grounds. >> well, i'm amused by her coward is in refusing to repeat that allegation now. she's not in parliament and covered by privilege. she maybe already aware, she came out with an absolute blatant lie during those proceedings. at no stage in my book or indeed outside of my book vifr boasted of using phone hacking for any stories. for the record in my time at the mirror and the news of the world i have never hacked a phone, told anybody to hack a phone, or published any story based on the hacking of a phone. and what she did today was a deliberate, in my view, and outrageous attempt to smear my name, cnn's name, "the daily mirror" name. and i think her now to have the breathtaking gall to just sit here calmly and say i can't possibly repeat that because i haven't got privilege is an
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outrage. and i call on you to repeat it. show some balls, repeat what you said about me. >> the second of two big confrontations in that story today. and there's a lot more news coming up tonight. japan battles cattle shipments from the area near its crippled nuclear plant after alarming levels of radiation are found in meat. can't believe we're talking about this four months later. just last month japanese officials were telling a different story also new deadly violence in syria. reported target, a funeral procession. details coming up. discover customersl are getting five percent cashback bonus at the pump... and at many of the places their summer plans take them. it pays to switch, it pays to discover. is best absorbed in small continuous amounts.
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tonight four months after an earthquake and tsunami devastated japan and set off a nuclear crisis, japan has announced it is banning all shipments of cattle raise in the fukushima prefecture that has been leaking radiation still. it comes after contaminated meat from cows in the area ended up at japan ease stores and restaurants. the government investigated the firm the meat came from. they found radiation levels hay that the cows it were up to 57 times higher than the allowance. last month officials tried to downplay the danger in the meat. the director of safety said he didn't think small amounts would have any long-lasting effects on humans. but now with the ban there are questions about how much the government is trying to prevent contaminated food from ending up on dinner tables and how forthright they are in announcing problems to fix the damaged power plant as well.
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joining me is keong la and -- a senior operator at three power plants. keong, it's hard to believe four months later we're still talking about this. last week the japanese government insisted that tainted beef was safe if consumed only in small portions. and today all the beef has been banned. this seems like a sudden change. what happened here exactly? >> reporter: well, it is a very sudden change, sanjay. we don't know if the government was purposely trying to downplay this. but it certainly gives the impression to the consumer that government doesn't have a handle of this problem. because now, talk about a huge 180. early on, when the government did make those statement, well, the government was talking about perhaps a handful of cows. now the crisis is expanding. it has expanded every single day. we're now talking about 550 to 650 cows, meat that has been shipped across the country.
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and those numbers are ticking upwards every single day. a question consumers should be asking now is what about the feed and the cows that have been contaminated outside of the fukushima area. that's already happened. what about that meat? what is the government going to do to contain that crisis in a lot of consumer concern out there, sanjay. >> yes. and it's fair to say as you say it's tough to say if there was any intention to deliberately mislead. but there have been concerns in the past about all sorts of things. when i was there, contaminated spinach, milk, tea leaves, fish. this just seems on appearances to be very mishandled. is there faith in the japanese government assurances about the food supply overall? >> reporter: well, when you talk to consumers especially if you go to the grocery store, they say they don't really know. because when they go to the grocery store, it's very similar. the meat aisle is very similar to anything you'd see in the united states. the meat that you buy is packed in cell fain. very tidy.
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but you don't know what that cow was fed. you don't know where it came from. so you have to trust the government. and the question now is, if you do not trust the government to control what that cow has been fed, if that meat that you're about to set in front of your child is going to be safe, then yes, it's a huge concern. because you don't know what to eat. you don't know beyond that. is chicken going to be okay? as you mentioned is fish going to be okay? an even bigger staple of the japanese diet. >> let's talk about the plant for a second as well, michael. the government and tepco say they've completed the first step of their cleanup plan and they are on track to begin the next phase. you don't buy that. why not? >> well, we've seen that they've installed a number of pieces of temporary equipment over the last several weeks. but we've also seen that's only operating about a 70% capacity compared to what it need to be. they've had all kinds of operator problems in terms of venting the system, had equipment problems. quite honestly, remember now this equipment is going to have
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to be used for years to come. this is not a temporary piece of equipment. it's made with pvc pipe and plastic piping. much of it is doors. i have my doubts about this equipment. stopgap measure but in terms of a long-term stable condition i'm not sure. in term office the reactors, quite honestly the reactors are almost in the same situation they were in in the early days of the accident. they're still in a situation of injecting water, water leaks out of the holes in the building. they take it off, clean it off and inject it back in. they're far from a stable situation with the reactors. >> again, it's just remarkable to hear that from you this many months after this all happened. to add to that, michael, as you know typhoon ma-on is headed for japan. forecast say it could miss the crippled nuclear plant. it is typhoon season there. what sort of precautions if any are being taking place to
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protect fukushima? >> the only thing that i saw them do are as you say preparation for the putting the roof over the turbine building. as you say, we still have 3 1/2 months in there. and on the east side of japan. so there's a good chance that over the course of the next weeks and months that this will be repeated again and again. >> well, fingers crossed for people living there. and well wishes to them. kyung lah, michael freedlander. we're following several other stories tonight. isha sesay joins us reports of new deadly violence syria. watch this. >> activists say security forces opened fire on a funeral prose session in the city of -- killing at least seven people.
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this video you're watching is from youtube. cnn cannot independently confirm the reports 12 days after a fan died after falling over a railing trying to catch a baseball, the texas rangers are making changes at the stadium. they'll be raising the height of the rails and posting new signs to remind fans not to lean, sit or stand near them. for same-sex couples wanting to get married this sunday in new york city, they'll have to hit the lottery. such a high demand on the first day of the state's same-sex marriage law takes effect, city officials are capping the number of nuptials at 764. the winners will be announced friday. and sanjay, a michigan bride didn't get the wedding day she was hoping for. she was arrested this weekend on a felony warrant accusing her of identity theft. she posted bond. and get this. the bride is now on the run. authorities say she didn't show up for a court hearing. and they could well be looking for her with another warrant if posted. >> identity theft on the day of
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your wedding. i hope the groom knew at least. >> yes, indeed. >> hopefully he knew what he was getting himself into. >> i hope so, too. >> identity theft sometimes occurs after the wedding, not before. >> yes. with your husband's credit card. i wouldn't know, but they tell me it happens. >> me, neither. in case my wife is watching. isha, stick around for this. time for the shot. check out this crime-fighting chihuahua. a tiny pooch named paco went on the attack when two men came into a california smoke shop and demanded money. watch. >> give me honey, homey. hurry up. [ dog barking ] paco apparently chased them out of the store. the gunman are still on the run.
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killer chihuahua. >> those did not appear to be hardened criminals the way they leapt out of paco's way. they always say you should watch out for the small ones. >> that's right. every time i see a chihuahua i can't help but think "yo quiero taco bell". remember that? >> no. you're showing your age. up next a different type of crime stories. we kick off our series on con men with the the man who claimed to be clark rockefeller, a member of an elite american family. it was all lies. police say the imposter did it before with other fake names over decades. now he's accused of murder. the latest on the case against him coming up. and remember the testimony during the casey anthony trial about 84 searches for chloroform on the family computer? well, that story has changed big time. and the prosecution is under fire. that and more when 360 continues. break through.
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in crime and punishment tonight, we kick off a new series called con men. tonight a look at the man who for years within the by the name charge rockefeller. he pretended to be a member of the wealthy american family, a crime denied by the real rockefellers. his true identity came to light when he was charged with kidnapping his own daughter. that's when police say they uncovered a web of lies that goes back decades. he didn't just go by the the name rockefeller. they say he used fake names in almost every city he lived. now he's also accused of killing a neighbor more than 25 years ago while using one of his many aliases. with more, here's tom foreman.
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>> reporter: they say pictures don't lie, but this one did. and this one. and maybe thousands more of the man called clark rockefeller. because investigators believe he was almost never whom he claimed to be. and in his rocket rise to the top of society, they think he committed murder. >> well, he's a man who built his life on fiction. >> reporter: mark seal wrote "the man in the rockefeller suit". the astonishing rise and spectacular fall of a serial imposter. >> he didn't just do this with one name or one persona. he did it repeatedliers time after time after time after time. in increasing grandiosity and increasingly intelligent, learned, successful circles. that's what makes him different. >> reporter: his story starts long ago in 1978 when under his real name, christian gehrhardt, a working class german teen he came to america and found the life he wanted on tv. >> good morning, mr. and mrs.
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howell. beautiful day, isn't it? >> ideal flying weather. >> if you remember the television show "gilligan's island". he started watching that. and apparently began to emulate the exsen tick east coast millionaire, thur ton howell iii mimicking his speech and his accent and his way of life in a way. >> reporter: police say that started a decades-long odyssey of moving and new identities. in wisconsin he was film student chris gerhart, dreaming of fame on rooting for ronald reagan. in california he said he was christopher chichester a member of the british royal family hob knobbing with hollywood insiders. in connection he became chris crowe, former film producer and actually landed a job as a bond trader. investigators say he was smart, quick-thinking, and all of his credentials, connections and histories were elaborate frauds. still, authorities say, he
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rubbed elbows with the rich and powerful, joined their churches and clubs, and then lived off of the generosity of people who thought he was the one with all the money and contacts. when they grew suspicious, he simply slipped away. then, in new york in the early 90s he took on his biggest role, clark rockefeller. he assembled an impressive art collection, almost all fakes, and he met a woman who was attracted to this charming, secretive, quirky member of one of the country's most powerful families. >> well, he was entertaining. he was educated, seemingly. he was fun to be around. he knew a little bit about everything. >> reporter: they married, had a daughter, and the child became the center of his life. so much so that when the couple divorced after 12 years and his wife got custody, he kidnaped the girl from a boston street. >> this man had built a life on lies. and the only true thing in his
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life was his love for his daughter. and that's what blew the lid off of a 30-year con. >> reporter: he and the girl were picked up in baltimore less than a week later where he was building yet another alias. this time as a ship captain. he was convicted of the kidnapping, but it was much worse than that. as his trail of deception was revealed, authorities in california realized he was the man they had hunted in a missing person's case. a couple had been involved with a long-gone royal christopher chichester. he has pleaded not guilty to a single charge of murder, and he sits in jail today, one man with many pasts awaiting trial. tom foreman, cnn, washington. >> and tomorrow night we're going to have more of our con men series. we're going to take a look at another criminal who's made headlines around the world. here's ted roland with the preview. >> reporter: these are the famous feet of the barefoot bandit in shackles. his incredible game of catch me
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if you can came to an end in the bahamas after more than two years on the run. >> he evaded homeland security. i mean, it's pretty embarrassing for the government in some ways much but he didn't know he was doing those things at all. >> reporter: the teenager admits to a wild ride that included stealing and crashing five airplanes. he lived in the woods, swiping food from homes and businesses, and taunting police as thousands of online fans cheered him on. >> they were rooting for this guy. here was a kid who was sticking it to the law, flying airplanes, breaking into rich people's vacation homes. thousands of people became interested in colton harris-moore. >> and we're going to reveal the truth about the so-called barefoot bandit tomorrow night on 360, part of our con men series. up next, though, anderson with the ridiculist classic. plus surprising information about the case against casey anthony. remember the prosecution said she searched for chloroform on her family computer 84 times? it turns out that never happened.
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coming up, an effort to stop people from texting while walking. and the classic ridiculist it brought to mind. first, though, isha is back with 360 news and business bulletin. >> reporter: new doubts about a cornerstone of the prosecution's case against casey anthony. those alleged 84 internet searches for chloroform may have actually been just one search. that's what a software designer who testified during the trial is telling the "new york times."
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john bradley says he realized the error and told the prosecution about it in late june, but they never did anything about it. nfl quarterback michael vick was on capitol hill today supporting new legislation against dog fighting. something for which he spent 20 months in jail. the new legislation targets spectators at dog fights. vick says he deeply regrets his involvement in dog fighting, and wants to be part of the solution. the strongest one-day rally of the year on wall street. the dow rose 202 point and the s & p gained 21 stocks surged today after president obama signalled there was progress in debt ceiling negotiations. and shares of apple closed at a record high on news that company sold more than 20 million iphones during the last three months, and 9 million ipads. and i don't own either. >> you don't own either? well then, isha, you're going to have a hard time doing what i'm about to show you which i think is really amazing. we're going to be able to watch you just about everywhere.
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take a look at this if you can. this is my ipad. and this is live streaming cnn. you're actually seeing that right now. >> oh, wow. >> just a few second delay. talking about the stories that you just talked about. watch on the ipad. you're going to see yourself pop up here in a second. but i mean you can literally watch cnn anywhere. you just sign in. you need to have a cable account. once you do that you can watch -- there you are. >> and there i am! and there you are. >> yeah. >> now you've shamed me. i hope you're happy. >> well now you don't have to go out and get an ipad just for this. but a lot of people are going to have access to this that haven't had it before. so maybe that's a little incentive for you. >> maybe. we'll see. >> isha, look up that commercial that i was talking about about the chihuahua. i'm a little hurt by that. wait, look, isha, there's the dog i was talking about. listen. >> okay. how old is this commercial? >> i don't know. >> yo quiero taco bell.
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i don't know how old it is. i'm old. point made. >> not that old. just kind of old. >> oh, thanks. i think. isha, thanks so much. we'll check in with you in a moment you may have heard about an initiative in philadelphia to stop people from texting while walking. there are reports that people would even be fined $120 if they were caught. city officials released a statement today saying yes, there is a campaign to make city streets and sidewalks safer but they're not issuing citations for texting while walking. just asking police officers to remind people to be careful. that's pretty good advice, because there's no doubt that text while walking can be dangerous. just ask the pennsylvania woman who anderson put on the ridiculist back in january. take a look. it's a ridiculist classic. >> time for the ridiculist tonight. tonight adding a new name, kathy cruz morrero, also known as fountain lay ditch. she's a walking psa for the pitfall of texting in motion. she's walking through a mall in
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pennsylvania, texting and walking and texting and -- omg, falls right into the fountain. but the splashing mishap isn't why we're putting fountain lady on the ridiculist. oh, no. it's because of what has happened now. she's got a lawyer and she's thinking about suing. that's right. suing. this is what we've come to. now, let's be clear. she's not thinking of suing because she was hurt because she wasn't hurt. she's thinking about suing because she thinks security guards should have done more to help her, and she wants to know how the surveillance video got online. now, fountain lady was on good morning america today ringing out all the details. >> i admit it was funny. but nobody took my feelings into consideration. i'm sorry. nobody. nobody went to my aid. not one single person went to my aid. it could have been anybody's mother. it could have been a senior citizen falling.
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and would they have gotten the same treatment as i did? the fountain could have been empty. i could have been in the hospital. i could have walked into a bus, you know, got hit by a car. it can happen anywhere. >> could have could have could have could have could have. the fountain could have been empty, yeah, but it wasn't. i could have been in the hospital. yeah, but you weren't. i could have walked into a bus? you know what, if they let a bus drive into the mall, maybe you'd have a case. but they didn't let a bus drive into the mall. listen, fountain lady, i don't mean to get all nancy grace on you. i get that you were embarrassed. it wasn't very nice that somebody put that surveillance video online. the best way to make this whole thing go away? come a little closer. can you zoom in a little bit? just a little advice. stop going on tv to talk about it. now, no one even knew what you looked like. you were just a grainy wet fountain lady. you needed a towel, not a lawyer. >> we intend to hold all responsible parties accountable,
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whether that means requesting or demanding an apology, certainly requesting an explanation for why this happened, how it happened, and certainly we want to know the identity of all persons responsible with making the video public. >> oh, my god! come on, lawyer! an explanation for why this happened? for how it happened? ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the lady was texting so she didn't see the fountain and she fell. in that's how it happened. case closed. you're welcome. and fine, you want an apology? guess what? you don't need to file a lawsuit to get an apology. i'm going to give you one right now. i'm sorry you fell in that fountain and i'm sorry it was so hilarious. i'm sorry people laughed at you. it wasn't exactly like you got nominated prom queen and soaked in pig's blood like that poor girl cari. >> they're all laughing at me! >> see now, she could have used a good lawyer. carrie would totally have a case, public humiliation, pain,
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suffer, not to mentioned dry cleaning bill for that prom dress. but fountain lady, not so much. so pick yourself up, dry yourself off and try not to text while you're walking into tonight's ridiculist. >> case closed. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] this...is the network -- a network of possibilities. in here, the planned combination of at&t and t-mobile would deliver
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sanjay gupta in tonight for anderson cooper. we begin tonight with washington's trillion dollar showdown over the debt. with just two weeks to go until the treasury says it's going to be out of money to pay all the bills there were two major developments.
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one has been call a possible break through. the other is being attacked by some as a stunt. >> on this vote, the yeas are 234 and the nays are 190. the bill has passed. without objection, a motion to reconsider is laying on the table. >> that's the house tonight passing h.r. 2560, better known as cut, cap and balance. now, it's a republican and tea party-sponsored measure calling for massive spending cuts, a spending cap, and congress passing a balanced budget amendment. only then would the debt limit be allowed to go up, ending the current crisis. the measure was passed with just five democratic votes. senate democrats say they'll defeat it. if somehow they fail, president obama says he'll veto it. in other words, it's doa. which is why a lot of democrats are calling it a stunt and a waste of time. earlier today a bipartisan group of senators called the gang of six came out with a proposal of their own that is being taken seriously, including at the white house. >> and so for us to see
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democratic senators acknowledge that we've got to deal with our long-term debt problems that arise out of our various entitlement programs, and for republican senators to acknowledge that revenues will have to be part of a balanced package that makes sure that nobody is disproportionately hurt from us making progress on the debt and deficits i think is a very significant step. >> the plan in brief cuts the national debt by about $3.7 trillion over the next ten years. it does it with a mix of spending cuts and tax changes. now, there are several catches, though. uncertainty whether house tea party republicans will get behind it, and doubts from senate leaders that they can get it all done within the next two weeks. whatever the outcome, though, new polling tonight suggests that americans are losing confidence in washington. in the latest abc news "washington post" survey, eight in ten americans are either dissatisfied or angry about the way the federal government is working.
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that's the highest percentage since the 1990s. additionally, 63% say they were inclined to look around next year for new representation in washington. and joining us now, democratic strategist james carville and ari fleischer, former george w. bush press secretary. you can follow him incidentally at twitter.com/ari fleischer. let me start with you, that poll today pretty striking. eight in ten americans upset with washington right now, six in ten inclined to look elsewhere when it comes to election time. we're one day closer to a possible problem with the debt ceiling here. was this really the moment to spend an entire day on what everyone thinks is a symbolic gesture? >> i don't think it was symbolic at all, sanjay. the only institution of washington of the house, the senate and the white house that has actually done its job and done anything meaningful on spending or debt is the house of representatives. they passed a budget. the senate has not. they passed cuts today. the senate has not. and president obama in his budget never propose today do
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anything about the debt except to let is grow. so only one institution is doing it. the president isn't for it, so therefore he wants to belittle it and act as if what the house did isn't meaningful but it is. the other reason it's meaningful beyond legislatively is now almost every republican of the house has now voted to increase the debt limit. and that crosses an important threshold for house republicans. it's almost as if that old game of warm warm hot hot? you've got to go through a few of these intermediate steps before you get to the final last-minute step of getting the agreement done. i'm still hopeful an agreement will be done. but you do have to go through this dance before you get there. and this is a part of it. but make no mistake, that was a real bullet what they passed today. it's the only real cuts in town. >> james, i'm going to have you weigh in on this in a second. but i guess, ari, my point is that it's not going to get passed, h.r. 2560. so the american people watch this and they say, okay. that's great. but it's not going to probably get through the senate. certainly the president is going to veto it so it does nothing for me.
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according to these polls, ari, it doesn't even seem like it provide political cover for the elected representatives because the people seem frustrated with what's happening in washington right now. >> well, and of course what they did in the house is actually the closest representation to the election of 2010 where people were isn't to washington to make a difference and change the town spending. so in that sense it's actually very consistent with the public. i think the frustration is that the public's divided as well just as the politicians are. the public wants to get things done. they want people to work together. but they also want washington to change the way it's been spending money. and so until the end of the day -- and this is the way washington has always worked, they get the work done at the last second. until that last-second agreement is reached, you're going to have this natural churning of the public. everybody's fed up with it. it's totally understandable. it's a messy, messy, bad-looking process. but it's the way our system works. >> james, you know how the system works as well. do you think this vote was an important gesture to conservatives? i mean, does it provide some cover in terms of --
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>> i think it provided cover to the conservatives. actually when you look at the polls they're not balanced at all who people are mad at. they are overwhelmingly mad at the congressional republicans. 71% to 73% disapproval for them, something like that numbers were like 20 to 73. president was 43-48. that's not parity. the public has decided that they don't like their approach. now, they may be wanting to double down with their base, they maybe wanting to do this or have this vote so they can do something else. that i don't know. but i suspect that this thing now that one side has a clear political advantage, that's generally the way these things wash out. and pretty soon we're going to get off of this and they'll go to some version of an extension or something that will give them some kind of -- try to get political cover with their base to move forward. but it's still got a little ways to go here. >> looking forward, james, there seems to be a lot of optimism i think you'll degree in the
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senate about this gang of six proposal. the president came out praising it as you heard, called it a good development between democratic leaders in the senate saying they don't think now there's enough time to pass this bill. i mean, is it possible that we've just gotten too late for this grand bargain? >> well, they can do anything they want. they can extend it 30 -- they could extend the debt ceiling for 30 days pending the outcome. i mean, they're congress. there's 1,0001 options they have before you get to this horrific thing called default. it may be get there. look, a lot of republicans are being told it doesn't matter, it would actually be good for the country. it kind of flummoxes me. but that's what a lot of them think. they're going to need a lot of democratic votes to pass this in the house. whether they can get them or not i don't know. it's still not a done deal. but right now it's pretty easy to declare that there's a political winner in this, and it's the president.
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i mean, that's pretty clear at this point. maybe they'll be able to change it and turn it around but it's going to be pretty tough. >> here's why the president is not the political winner in this. if he was the political winner then why is a non-gamed republican candidate beating him by eight points in the last gallup poll and why is his approval dropping in the low 40s range? the president's numbers have been coming down this whole process as well. so has congress's. this is the ultimate pox on both houses. there is no winner in this whole mess. as far as the whole notion of is default good or bad for the country, you have a very small number of republicans who think that we won't default, and if we did it's not a big problem. they're wrong. you also have a big number of democrats, a much larger number, who say it doesn't matter if we spend the nation into bankruptcy. we won't go bankrupt. they're wrong and that's even worse because there are more of them who believe that than the small number of republicans willing to countenance the fall. >> let me be clear. these polls, can i just be clear about something? this is washington i equivalent lensy.
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the polls are not equivalent. the public blames the congressional republicans much more than the president, ari. that's a fact that cannot be disputed. we should not get off of what the facts are. it's not a pox on both your house. it's overwhelmingly the public blames the congressional republicans. >> james, as somebody who's made his living with polls you know as well as do i that there's not only one poll in town. there's a bunch of them. >> okay. three of them. you can look at all three. [ overlapping speakers ] >> numbers have been dropping. nobody is faring well in, this james. >> james, let me ask you something very specific. there's a question about the president releasing more details about what specifically he'd cut thacht seems to be a point of contention. >> right. >> do you think the president should do that? people accuse him of being vague. should he be more specific on this? >> i think he's embraced the quote gang of six. i guess now they are saying it's the gang of seven. and a lot of these cuts are going to have to go. i was listening to senator conrad today.
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i was reading something. this would have to go, some of the revenue things would have to go to finance committee and different places. but pretty specific in, this the amount that they're trying to do. one agreement they said they had half a billion dollars in, $1 trillion in cuts and it turned out to be 30 billion or something like that. who knows. nobody has an agreement to do anything yet. i suspect that they're going to get one. it may be they may have to get a 30-day extension, do something like that. by the way, senator demint says it's not just minor republicans. senator demint one of the most powerful republican senators said that, senator toomey an up and coming star of the republican party says default would be fine, better for the country. all over talk radio you're hearing that default would be good. the "wall street journal" their editorial paper is printing op ed pieces saying it would be good for the party. >> ari, what do you think happens between now and august 2nd?
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>> never forget, the administration, the department of treasury does have the ability to juggle more trust funds and push back the august 2nd date. i think that's going to happen if we're anywhere close to august 2nd. i think you'll get some type of intermediate agreement made that's going to be of some modest level of spending cuts and probably spending cuts only, it's going to get us through the fall, maybe to the winter. and then they're going to have to come back to this with different politics. and as the year goes along to figure out what to do down the road. i do think it's too late for any kind of grand bargain. don't overinterpret what the gang of six did. it actually is not the language of a grand bargain. it's kicking the can down the road so a grand bargain gets negotiated again later. it's not to do all its work before august 2nd. short term and then they're going to come back and we're going to be here again i hate to tell you in another six months or so. >> maybe we'll have you guys back as well. big day, though, on this particular topic. ari fleischer, james carville, thanks so much. let us know what you think as well, we're on facebook, you can follow me on twitter @ sanjay gupta.
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rupert murdoch's testimony in the hacking scandal was part of the story today. a three-ring sir cuss accompanied it as well an attack on piers morgan and his stinging counter punch japan's credibility gap getting wider. just a week ago the government said beef from nearby areas was safe in small portions. now it's saying don't even take a bite. we'll have details shortly. first let's check in with isha sesay a stunning revelation in the casey anthony story. the 84 internet searches for chloroform she allegedly made? turns out the real number might be just one. says who? what about the prosecution's duty to tell the defense? answers coming up when 360 continues. my cream is what maks stouffer's fettuccini alfredo so delicious. i think you'll find it's the vegetables. deliciously rich. flavorful! [ female announcer ] together at last. introducing new stouffer's farmers' harvest with sides of lightly sauteed farm-picked vegetables.
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for this whole fiasco? >> nope. >> you're not responsible? who is responsible? >> the people that i trusted to run it, and then maybe the people they trusted. >> no apology, and no stepping down. >> have you considered resigning? >> >> no. >> why not? >> because i feel that people i trusted, not saying, who i don't know at what level, but let me down, and i think they have behaved disgracefully, betrayed the company and me. and it's for them to pay. i think that frankly i'm the best person to clean this up. >> speak of cleaning up, the proceedings were interrupted briefly when a protestor delivered a shaving cream pie. take a look at this. keep your eye on the lower left hand corner of your screen. it happens pretty quickly.
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>> oh! >> and here it is "ly again in slow motion. here comes the pie. and that pink blur that you see over there, that's rupert murdoch's wife wendy who leaps across the table taking a poke at the pieman. then a bobbie arrives and takes the man away. his name reportedly is jonathan may bowles. and his twitter handle, johnny marbles. i tell you that because just before the attack he tweeted "i'm actually in this committee and can confirm, p murdoch is mr. burns". mr. burns being c. montgomery burns from fox's the simpson's, springfield's richest man. there's nothing funny about the allegations against mr. murdoch's british newspaper empire. he spent a fair bit of time painting himself as similarfully out of touch. listen. >> i can't answer. i don't know. i don't know. i was not aware at the time. but i don't have any memory.
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i don't know anything about that. i'm not sure what i said. i cannot swear to the accuracy of it. i just don't remember. >> joining me now, cnn's international richard quest, jeffrey toobin and "vanity fair" contributing editor vickie ward. welcome to all of you. you all have busy days i know. richard, let me start with you. how do you think the murdochs did today? i'll preface by saying if the stock price is any indication, the reaction seemed to be favorable. should we be reading into that? >> the murdochs did what they had to do in the sense of apiecing investors. but not a great deal more than that. they still have not answered to the fundamental question, why was the culture allowed to take place at that newspaper that aloud these events to happen. and why did they not know more about it? did the chain of command clearly -- i want to show you the morning newspapers. it's a quart past 3:00 in the u.k. bear with me.
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this is how "the daily telegraph" is reporting it this morning. "murdoch eats humble pie". the rival nut of the world has "foam whacked". but interestingly, sanjay, if i show you both of the murdoch newspapers, they go for the most humble day of my life and "murdoch's defense". and they're highly, highly embarrassing moment is not on the front page, although obvious both newspapers do feature it inside. the newspapers are clearly all over this with every pun you can possibly imagine about foam, custard pies, humble pies. >> richard, i mean, i watched that and everyone just saw it again. i mean, you can't help feel a little bit sorry for the guy. he's 80 years old and getting essentially whacked with this foam pie or whatever it was. i mean, does it make a big difference? was there a little bit of sympathy you think that people felt as a result?
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>> whatever sympathy there was, listen to those answers again that you played, sanjay. you'll see that yes, that might have been hit gentlemen demeanor. very long pauses before answers. but when those answers came they were clear, they were definitive. no, i don't take ultimate responsibility. i didn't do this. i was misled and betrayed. and the feeling generally from what i've read in the comment and the analysis is that whatever he may have on the surface looked like, here was rupert murdoch doing what he had to do, doing it honestly and sincerely about the million dollar hacking of the dead girl's phone. but obviously with a wider agenda. >> and so jeff, so he apologized. he said he was humbled. but he did not take responsibility. what do you make of that, jeff toobin? >> i think his problem is not really legal at this point. it's a business problem. he has to figure out a way to keep control for his family of
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the news corp. i mean, i don't think there is any direct criminal responsibility, either -- certainly not in the united states and probably not in great britain, either. but he has to persuade the so-called independent directors of news corp. who are not very independent who are very much in normal circumstances dependent on him. he has to persuade them that he and his son are still fit to run the company, that they are not liabilities. and i think they barely did that. james murdoch did his sort of tony robbins, you know, a lot of business cliche's about how he was being proactive and there was a code of conduct. but -- and rupert was grudgingly accepting of responsibility, although he apparently had no idea how his newspapers worked. but i think he probably did enough to hold on.
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>> well, vickie, you used to work for rupert murdoch. >> yes. both sides of the atlantic. >> right. right. and as jeff said, he seems to have held his ground today in some ways scoring points as we saw with investors. but there are other investigations still going on. i think four or five of them. >> right. >> where do you see the scandal going from here? >> well, i think this is a watershed moment for the british press and hopefully for the press around the world. i mean, it's very important that press play the part that actually rupert talked about at the end of the hearing today. what he initially intended to do when his father gave him the legacy that he gave him and he came to britain was create a culture of transparency, to make a democracy really free. and make the establishment answerable to the press that was honest and clean, not sleazy and criminal. as the allegations -- what clearly happened with the cases "the news of the world" has been involved with.
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i do disagree with one thing jeff said. i think james murdoch came out fantastically well today. 24 hours ago people were saying rebekah brooks is gone. is james next. i think once the stock prices shot up 6% today as we've seen, people are buying news corp. stock. i think james murdoch actually shown in those proceedings. he was extremely articulate. and he seemed to have a real grip. for someone who only came into that seat in 2007, as he pointed out. >> yes. 38-year-old james murdoch we're talking about. jeff, before we all go, let me give you a text 360 question. we got this from steve in detroit. how do you think the allegations and testimony in england are going to affect news corp. and its subsidiaries in the united states? you talked about this from a legal standpoint already. but in general what do you think the impact is going to be? >> i don't think that much in the united states. i don't think fox news is really going affected by that. the "wall street journal" lost its head of dow jones but the
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"wall street journal" is still a very successful, high-quality newspaper. a lot of people have talked about the possibility of criminal charges in the united states. the foreign corrupt practices act or something connected with hacking or 9/11 -- 9/11 victims. there really is no credible evidence at all of any sort of american criminal violations by anyone in connection with news corp. so i mean, i really think the question is really a business one over here as well as in england is can the murdochs stay in control? and i think probably yes is the answer. >> and they seem to have every intention of doing so based on the answers some of those questions today. jeff toobin, vickie ward, richard quest, thanks so much for joining us. there's a lot more news coming up tonight. japan battles cat tell shipments from the area near its crip pelled nuclear plant after alarming levels of radiation are found in maechlt can't believe we're talking about this four months later. just last week japanese health
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tonight, four months after an earthquake and tsunami devastated japan and set off a nuclear crisis, japan has announced it is bang all shipments of cattle raised near fukushima. that's near the damaged nuclear power plant that has been
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leaking radiation still. it comes after contaminated meat from cows in the area ended up at japan ease stores and restaurants. the government investigated the farm that meat came from, about 18 miles from the plant. they found radiation levels in hay that cows ate were up to 57 times higher than the government's maximum allowance. just last week, japan ease health officials tried to downplay the dangers of radiation in the meat. a state minister in charge of food safety said he didn't think small portions would have any long-lasting effects on humans. but now with the ban there are new questions about how much the government is doing to prevent contaminated food from ending up on dinner tables. there's still lingering questions about how forthright the government is in announcing any progress in fixing the damaged nuclear power plant as well. joining me to talk about this from tokyo is kyung lah and from hong kong michael friedlander, 13 years of experience as a senior operator at three power plants. kyung, it's hard to believe four months later we're still talking about this. i understand last week the japanese government insisted
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tainted beef was safe if consumed only in small portions. today all the beef has been banned. this seems like a sudden change. what happened here exactly? >> reporter: well, it is a very sudden change, sanjay. we don't know if the government was purposely trying to downplay this. but it certainly gives the impression to the consumer that government doesn't have a handle of this problem. because now talk about a huge 180. early on, when the government did make those statement, well, the government was talking about perhaps a handful of cows. now this crisis is expanding, it has expanded every single day. we're now talking about 550 to 650 cows, meat that has been shipped across the country. and those numbers are ticking upwards every single day. a question consumers should be asking now is what about the feed and the cows that have been contaminated outside of the fukushima area. that's already happened. what about that meat? what is the government going to do to contain that crisis? so a lot of consumer concern out
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there, sanjay. >> and it's fair to say as you said that it's tough to say if there was any intention to deliberately mislead but there have been concerns in the past about all sorts of things. when i was there, contaminated spinach, milk, tea leaves, fish. this just seems on appearances to be very mishandled. is there faith in japanese government assurances about the food supply overall? >> reporter: when you talk to consumers especially if you go to the grocery store, they say they don't really know. because when they go to the grocery store, it's very similar. the meat aisle is very similar to anything you'd see in the united states. the meat you buy is packed in cellophane. very tidy. but you don't know what that cow was fed. you don't know where it came from. so you have to trust the go. and the question now is, if you do not trust the government to control what that cow has been fed, if that meat that you're about to set in front of your child is going to be safe, then yes, it's a huge concern.
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because you don't know what to eat. you don't know beyond that, is chicken going to be okay? as you mentioned, is fish going to be okay, an even bigger staple of the japanese diet. >> let's talk about the plant for a moment, michael. the government and tepco say they've completed the first step of their cleanup plan and are on track to begin the next phase. you don't buy that. why not? >> well, we've seen that eve installed a number of pieces of temporary equipment over the last several weeks. it's only operating at about a 70% capacity compared to what it need to be. they have all kind of operator problems in terms of venting the system. they've had equipment problems. quite honestly, remember now this equipment is actually going to have to be used for years to come. this is not a temporary piece of equipment. it's made with pvc pipe and plastic piping, much of it is outdoors.
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so i juls have my doubts about this equipment. stopgap measure, of course, but in terms of a long-term, stable condition, i'm not sure. and in terms of the reactors, quite honestly, the reactors are almost in the same situation they were in in the early days of the accident. they're still on a feed and bleed situation in terms of injecting water, water leaks out of the holes in the building, they take it off, they clean it up and inject it back in. so they're far from a stable situation with the reactors. >> again it's remarkable to hear that from you this many months after this all happened. to add to that, michael, as you know typhoon ma-on is headed for japan. but i guess right now forecasts say it could miss the crip pelled nuclear plant. it is typhoon season there. what sort of precautions if any are taking place to protect fukushima? >> the only thing that i saw them doing as you say in preparation for the landfall of the typhoon they were putting a roof over the turbine building. but as you say, we still have 3 1/2 months of typhoon season here.
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and they're on the east side of japan. so there's a good chance that over the course of the next weeks and months that this will be repeated again and again. >> well, fingers crossed for people living there. and well wishes to them. kyung lah, michael friedlander. >> thanks. we're following several other stories tonight. isha sesay joings us with the 360 bulletin. >> reporter: there are reports of new deadly violence syria. watch this. >> activists say security forces opened fire on a funeral prose session in the city of holmes today can iing at least seven people. this video you're watching is from youtube. cnn cannot independently confirm the reports 12 days after a fan died after falling over a railing trying to catch a baseball, the texas rangers are making changes at the stadium. they'll be raising the height of the rails and posting new signs
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to remind fans not to lean, sit or stand near them. for same-sex couples wanting to get married this sunday in new york city, they'll have to hit the lottery. such a high demand on the first day of the state's new same-sex marriage law takes effect, city officials are capping the number of nuptials at 764. the winners will be announced friday. and sanjay, a michigan bride didn't get the wedding day she was hoping for. she was arrested this weekend on a felony warrant accusing her of identity theft. she posted bond. and get, this the bride is now on the run. authorities say she didn't show up for a court hearing. and they could well be looking for her with if another warrant is posted. >> identity theft on the day of your wedding. i hope the groom knew at least. >> indeed. >> -- what he was getting himself into.
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>> i hope so, too. >> identity theft sometimes occurs after the wedding, not before. >> yes. with your husband's credit cards. that happens a great deal. i wouldn't know but they tell me it happens. >> me, neither. if in case my wife is watching. stick around for this. time for the shot. check out this crime-fighting chihuahua. a tiny pooch named paco went on the attack when two armed men came into a california smoke shop and demanded money. watch. >> give me the money, homey. for real. [ dog barking ] >> paco apparently chased these armed men out of the store. the robbers got money incidentally but police say the thieves would have got an lot more if the dog didn't go on the attack. the gunmen are still on the run. killer chihuahua. >> those did not appear to be hardened criminals the way they leapt out of paco's way. more power to him. they always say you should watch out for the small once. >> that's right. but every time i see a chihuahua i can't help but think "yo "yo
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quiero taco bell. remember that commercial? >> no. you're showing your age. >> i am as usual. isha, thanks so much. up next a different type of crime story. we kick off our new series on conmen with a look at the man who claimed to be clark rockefeller, a member of an elite american family. it was all lies. police say the imposter did it before with other fake names over decades. now he's accused of murder. the latest case against him coming up. remember the testimony during the casey anthony trial about 84 searches for chloroform on the family computer? well, that story has changed big time. and the prosecution is under fire. that and more when 360 continues. i love that my daughter's part fish.
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in crime and punishment tonight, we kick off a new series called con men. tonight a look at the man who for years went by the name clark rockefeller. he pretended to be a member of the wealthy american family, denied by the real rock fellers. his true identity came to light when he was charged with kidnaping his own daughter. that's when police say they uncovered a web of lies that goes back decades. he didn't just go by the name rockefeller. they say he used fake names in almost every city he lived. now he's also accused of killing a neighbor more than 25 years ago while using one of his many aliases. with more here's tom foreman. >> reporter: they say pictures don't lie, but this one did. and this one. and maybe thousands more of the man called clark rockefeller. because investigators believe he was almost never whom he claimed
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to be. and in his rocket rise to the top of society, they think he committed murder. >> well, he's a man who built his life on fiction. >> reporter: mark seal wrote "the man in the rockefeller suit" the astonishing rise and spectacular fall of a serial imposter. >> reporter: he didn't just do this with one name or one persona. he did it repeatedly, time after time after time after time. in increasing grandiosity. and increasingly intelligent, learned, successful circles. that's what makes him different. >> reporter: his story starts long ago in 1978 when under his real name, christian gerhardt, a working class german teen, he came to america and found the life he wanted on tv. >> good morning, mr. and mrs. howell. beautiful day, isn't it? >> it's ideal flying weather. >> if you remember the television show "gilligan's island".
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he started watching that. and apparently began to emulate the excentric east coast millionaire thurston howell the iii mimicking his speech and accent and way of life in a way. >> reporter: police say that started a decades-long odyssey of moving and new identities. in wisconsin he was film student chris gerhart, dreaming of fame and rooting for ronald reagan. in california he said he was christopher chichester a member of the british royal family, hobnobbing with hollywood insiders. in connecticut he became chris crowe, former film producer. and he actually landed a job as a bond trader. investigators say he was smart, quick-thinking, and all of his credentials, connections and histories were elaborate frauds. still, authorities say, he rubbed elbows with the rich and powerful, joined their churches and clubs, and then lived off of the generosity of people who thought he was the one with all
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the money and contacts. when they grew suspicious, he simply slipped away. then, in new york in the early 90s he took on his biggest role, clark rockefeller. he assembled an impressive art collection, almost all fakes, and he met a woman who was attracted to this charming, secretive, quirky member of one of the country's most powerful families. >> well, he was entertaining. he was educated, seemingly. he was fun to be around. he knew a little bit about everything. >> reporter: they married, had a daughter, and the child became the center of his life. so much so that when the couple divorced after 12 years and his wife got custody, he kidnaped the girl from a boston street. >> this man had built a life on lies. and the only true thing in his life was his love for his daughter. and that's what blew the lid off
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of a 30-year con. >> reporter: he and the girl were picked up in baltimore less than a week later where he was building yet another alias, this time as a ship captain. he was convicted of the kidnapping, but it was much worse than that. as his trail of deception was revealed, authorities in california realized he was the man they had hunted in a missing person's case. a couple had been involved with a long-gone royal christopher chi cnn chester. he has pleaded not guilty to a single charge of murder, and he sits in jail today, one man with many pasts awaysing trial. tom foreman, cnn, washington. >> up next, anderson with the ridiculist classic. plus some surprising new information about the case against casey anthony. you remember the prosecution said she searched for chloroform on his family computer 84 times? turns out that never happened. new details coming up. [ male announcer ] even in the most uncertain times,
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coming up, an effort to stop people from texting while walking. and the classic ridiculist it brought to mind. first isha is back with 360 news and business bulletin. >> reporter: new doubts about a cornerstone of the prosecution's case against casey anthony. those alleged 84 internet searches for chloroform may have actually been just one search. that's what a software design who are testified during the trial is telling the "new york times." john bradley says he realized the error and told the prosecution about it in late june, but they never did anything about it. nfl quarterback michael vick was on capitol hill today supporting new legislation against dog fighting. something for which he spent 20 months in jail. the new legislation targets spectators at dog fights. vick says he deeply regrets his involvement in dog fighting and
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wants to be part of the solution. the strongest one-day rally of the year on wall street. the dow rose 202 points and s & p gained 21 stocks surged today after president obama signalled there was progress in debt ceiling negotiations. and shares of apple closed at record high on news that company sold more than 20 million iphones during the last three months and 9 million ipads. and i don't own either. >> isha, thanks so much. we'll check in with you in a moment. you may have heard about an initiative in philadelphia to stop people from texting while walking. there are reports that people would even be fined $120 if they were caught. so the officials released a statement today saying yes, there is a campaign to make city streets and sidewalks safer. but they're not issuing citations for texting while walking. just asking police officers to remind people to be careful. that's pretty good advice, because there's no doubt that texting while walking can be dangerous. just ask the pennsylvania woman who anderson put on the ridiculist back in january. take a look.
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it's a ridiculist classic. >> time for the ridiculist tonight. tonight we're adding in a new name, kathy cruz morrero, affection atly known at fountain lady. she's literally a walking psa for the pitfalls in texting in motion. she's walking through a mall in pennsylvania texting and walking and texting and, oh, mg, falls right into the the fountain. but the splashing mishap isn't why we're putting fountain lady on the ridiculist. oh, no. it's because of what has happened now. she's got a lawyer, and she's thinking about suing. that's right, suing. this is what we've come. to now let's be clear. she's not thinking of suing because she was hurt because she wasn't hurt. she's thinking about suing because she this security guards should have done more to help her, and she wants to know how the surveillance video got online. now, fountain lady was on good morning america today wringing out all the details. >> i admit it was funny. but nobody took my feelings into consideration.
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i'm sorry. nobody. nobody went to my aid. not one single person went to my aid. it could have been anybody's mother. it could have been a senior citizen falling, you know, and would they have gotten the same treatment as i did? the fountain could have been empty. i could have been in the hospital. i could have walked into a bus, you know, got hit by a car. it can happen anywhere. >> could have could have could have could have could have. the fountain could have been empty, yeah, but it wasn't. i could have been in the hospital? yeah, but you weren't. i could have walked into a bus? you know what? if they let a bus drive into the mall, maybe you'd have a case. but they didn't let a bus drive into the mall. listen, fountain lady, i don't mean to get all nancy grace on you. i get that you were embarrassed. it wasn't very nice that somebody put that surveillance video online. but you know the best way to make this whole thing go away?
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come a little closer. can you zoom in a little bit? just a little advice. stop going on tv to talk about it! now, no one even knew what you looked like. you were just the grainy wet fountain lady. you needed a towel, not a lawyer. >> we intend to hold all responsible parties accountable, whether that means requesting or demanding an apology, certainly requesting an explanation for why this happened, how it happened, and certainly we want to know the identity of all persons responsible with make the video public. >> oh, my god! come on, lawyer! an explanation for why this happened? happened? for how it happened? ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the lady was texting so she didn't see the fountain and she fell. in that's how it happened. case closed. you're welcome. and fine, you want an apology? guess what? you don't need to file a lawsuit to get an apology. i'm sorry you fell in that fountain and i'm sorry it was so hilarious. i'm sorry people laughed at you. let's be honest it wasn't like you got nominated prom queen and
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soaked in pig's blood like that girl carrie. >> they're all laughing at me! they're all laughing at me! >> see now, she could have used a good lawyer. carrie would totally have a case. public humiliation, pain, suffering, not to mention the dry cleaning bill for that prom dress. but fountain lady? not so much. so chin up. pick yourself up, dry yourself off and try not to text while you're walking into tonight's ridiculist. >> case closed. we'll be right back. a network o. in here, the planned combination of at&t and t-mobile would deliver our next generation mobile broadband experience to 55 million more americans, many in small towns and rural communities, giving them a new choice. we'll deliver better service, with thousands of new cell sites... for greater access to all the things you want, whenever you want them. it's the at&t network... and what's possible in here is almost impossible to say.
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